Sigma DP1 Quattro – Comparison 2 – The Concrete Works

Sticking to the industrial theme, and in search of untypical subject matter to test the Quattro’s versatility, I pushed its lens through the railings of the concrete works on the Cross Green industrial estate. There wasn’t much room to compose a shot!

Concrete Works, Leeds | Sigma DP1 Quattro | www.richardjwalls.com
Concrete Works, Leeds | Sigma DP1 Quattro | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Concrete Works, Leeds | Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Concrete Works, Leeds | Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Concrete Works, Leeds | Detail | www.richardjwalls.com
Concrete Works, Leeds | Sigma – Sony | http://www.richardjwalls.com

It was a grey day in Leeds on Sunday and so no judging the Quattro DP1 until the shooting conditions are better.

Shooting & Post Processing Notes

All shots taken at ISO100 with a tripod and post processed using SPP 6.1 and Lightroom. Due to past experience of over aggressive noise reduction luminance noise reduction was knocked down to the minimum in SPP (however this seems to make the Quattro DP1 images more noisy when viewed at 100% as compared to the Merrill DP3 (or Sony) and I’ll check this out in another post).

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Sigma DP1 Quattro – Comparison 1 – The RERF, Cross Green, Leeds

The new recycling and energy recovery facility (RERF) under construction at Cross Green, Leeds, has the largest timber frame (@42 metres) of its type in the UK. It seemed like a good place to try out some first shots with the recently arrived Sigma DP1 Quattro so I headed over.

Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP1 Quattro | www.richardjwalls.com
Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP1 Quattro | http://www.richardjwalls.com

It was a dull day and and I don’t believe this plays to the Sigma’s strengths.

Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP1 Quattro | www.richardjwalls.com
Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP1 Quattro | http://www.richardjwalls.com

Nevertheless the detail and IQ is still pretty special.

Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

With a similar focal length (and not currently possessing a Merrill DP1) my Sony RX1 became the benchmark. At nearly three times the cost at time of writing (£2,249 against £775 on Amazon UK) it’s hardly a fair comparison, but to be honest, after my experience with the Merrills, my expectations of Sigma are high!

Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

Never-the-less the Quattro held its ground pretty well in terms of the images it produced.

Detail, Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma - Sony | www.richardjwalls.com
Detail, Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma – Sony | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Detail, Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma - Sony | www.richardjwalls.com
Detail, Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma – Sony | http://www.richardjwalls.com

Finally, just for fun, some shots with my trusty, clunky, wonderful DP3 Merrill.

Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP3 Merrill | www.richardjwalls.com
Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP3 Merrill | http://www.richardjwalls.com

I’m starting to thing the Merrill DP3 is the best image making machine on the planet!

Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP3 Merrill | www.richardjwalls.com
Recycling and Energy Recovery Facility, Leeds | Sigma DP3 Merrill | http://www.richardjwalls.com

It was a grey day in Leeds on Sunday and so I’ll reserve judgement on the Quattro DP1 until the shooting conditions are better.

Shooting & Post Processing Notes

All shots taken at ISO100 with a tripod and post processed using SPP 6.1 and Lightroom. Due to past experience of over aggressive noise reduction luminance noise reduction was knocked down to the minimum in SPP (however this seems to make the Quattro DP1 images more noisy when viewed at 100% as compared to the Merrill DP3 (or Sony) and I’ll check this out in another post).

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Sigma Quattro DP2 & Merrill Revisited

The last time I had a Quattro it lasted one week. A combination of poor results and immature SPP led me to the conclusion that the camera was just not ready, or perhaps that there was a more fundamental issue with the new sensor design when compared to that bit of magic at the heart of the Merrill.

Then those Sigma people tempted me to give the Quattro a second try,  with updated firmware and SPP,  and I found myself once again comparing the Merrill and the Quattro, re-shooting some of the original images and re-processing others using SPP 6.0.6.

Quatto DP2 & Merrill DP3 Leeds Panoramic (Re-shot) Ok, so this is an unfair comparison given the difference in reach between the 50mm Merrill and 30mm Quattro, and that zooming with my feet would have got me wet, but this time around I see a much more acceptable rendition from the Quattro.

Leeds Panoramic | Quattro DP2
Leeds Panoramic | Quattro DP2
Leeds Panoramic | Merrill DP3
Leeds Panoramic | Merrill DP3

(note that the white balance for the Quattro images are different between the pano above and detail below – “as shot” changed to “auto”)

Leeds Panorama - Quattro & DP3 Detail
Leeds Panorama – Quattro & DP3 Detail
Leeds Panorama - Quattro & DP3 Detail
Leeds Panorama – Quattro & DP3 Detail
Leeds Panorama - Quattro & DP3 Detail
Leeds Panorama – Quattro & DP3 Detail

Leeds Red Brick (New Shots)

Red Brick | Merrill DP3
Red Brick | Merrill DP3
Red Brick | Quattro DP2
Red Brick | Quattro DP2
Leeds Red Brick Detail 1
Leeds Red Brick Detail 1
Leeds Red Brick Detail 2
Leeds Red Brick Detail 2

Clock & Green (Re-shot)

Clock & Green | Merrill DP3
Clock & Green | Merrill DP3
Clock & Green | Quattro DP2
Clock & Green | Quattro DP2
Clocks & Green - Brown Leaf
Clocks & Green – Brown Leaf
Clocks & Green - Leaf
Clocks & Green – Leaf
Clocks & Green - Spider Web
Clocks & Green – Spider Web

Check out the spiders web as it extends over the clock dial on the Merrill. Try as I might I could not recreate this white over white contrast with the Quattro!

Ossett War Memorial

Ossett War Memorial | Quattro DP2
Ossett War Memorial | Quattro DP2
Ossett War Memorial B&W | Merrill DP3
Ossett War Memorial B&W | Merrill DP3

Temple of the Four Winds 

Temple of the Winds | Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Temple of the Winds | Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Temple of the Winds | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Temple of the Winds | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

So what we have with the Quattro is a camera that undoubtedly represents a step change improvement in terms of usability from the previous generation, and when judged on its own merits produces images of outstanding quality that retain that Foveon look. It’s certainty not a camera to be sniffed at!

But the problem for the Quattro (and for Sigma) is that for loyal Merrill owners it’s nigh on impossible to judge the Quattro on its own merits when the Merrill sets the IQ bar so high. And for those whose need for usability means they are prepared to compromise IQ there’s a myriad of high-end compact cameras out there on the market, let alone DSLRs, that will produce excellent results.

So will I keep the Quattro this time around? I have to admit to being tempted. The IQ is great … the usability is just so much better …. despite the evidence above I’m no pixel peeper and more interested in the overall look … and if I didn’t already own a Merrill … but the trouble is I do …

… I think I need to sleep on it!

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All shots were taken with a tripod and 2-second delay (accept Ossett War Memorial hand held), at ISO100 and F9, in the same lighting conditions (2-3 minutes apart maximum, and an attempt to get the same exposure . All shots were converted to tiff 16 bit in SPP 6.0.5 with luminance noise reduction at the minimum setting; no other processing. All shots adjusted on Lightroom with the same settings – auto white balance, clarity and contrast up, sharpness up. Shadows and highlights adjusted for exposure, and no noise reduction.

Tryfan – Sigma Quattro DP2

The North Ridge of Tryfan is a grade 1 scramble in Snowdonia National Park.  A perfect place to try out the Sigma Quattro DP2.  No comparisons with the Merrill DP3 this time. I left it behind.

Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
The Canon, Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
The Canon, Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Adam & Eve, Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Adam & Eve, Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com

Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

All shots taken hand held, ISO 100, in RAW, and post processed in SPP and Lightroom.

Adam & Eve was taken through thick mist. The pano is stitched from two shots.

This wasn’t a photography trip, the main event was scrambling, so shots were composed and taken quickly without much thought!

For me the Quattro performed well; the detail is superb and it has that Foveon look I like. The issues found when post processing were camera shake on some shots at 1/125 and under (but I was breathing hard) and blown highlights.  A bit of care is needed to use this camera, and a tripod, but if you do you’ll be rewarded.

The biggest problem is still the speed of SPP.

Now to download latest firmware and version of SPP.

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Tryfan – Three Foot Chasm

Just one stride will win you the freedom of Tryfan

One jump from Adam to Eve 

Try not to stumble …

Tryfan Leap of Faith | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Tryfan Leap of Faith | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

Before the climb I’d had no doubt I’d do the jump. At 3000ft, standing on Tryfan’s summit, I was full of doubt. In my mind three feet had become a chasm; one slip certain death. 

This shot, taken with the Sigma Quattro through thick hill fog, captures another making the attempt. Ten minutes before I’d safely made mine! 

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Temple of the Four Winds, Castle Howard – Sigma Merrill & Quattro

The Temple of the Four Winds,

Bathed in early evening summer light,

The air perfectly still …

Temple of the Winds | Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Temple of the Winds | Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Temple of the Winds | Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Temple of the Winds | Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

Following a track from the New River Bridge, dipping through a gap in the fence, we stumbled across the temple after the crowds had left. Above the Sun was advanced in its steady decline. We caught the temple at its best, bathed in evening summer light.

Shots taken with the Sigma DP3 Merrill and Sigma DP2 Quattro, shooting in raw, at ISO 100, using a tripod. Both SPP and Lightroom were used for post processing.

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Tin Barn – Sigma Merrill & Quattro

Rust worn corrugated iron, railway sleepers, old oak beams …

A cobbled together triumph of function over form …

And yet so pleasing on eye

Tin Barn | Sigma DP2 Quattro | www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP2 Quattro | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP3 Merrill | www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP3 Merrill | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP3 Merrill | www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP3 Merrill | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP2 Quattro | www.richardjwalls.com
Tin Barn | Sigma DP2 Quattro | http://www.richardjwalls.com

As a photographer I love such buildings; a mess of whatever was available to hand, turned into something that just works, both in function and form, with a rich tapestry of colour and textures.

Shots taken with the Sigma DP3 Merrill, the other with a Sigma DP2 Quattro, shooting in raw, at ISO 100, using a tripod. Both SPP and Lightroom were used for post processing.

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Postscript & Sigma Reply

Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Postscript & Sigma Reply

For an updated review please see: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/sigma-quattro-dp2-merrill-revisted

Sigma Quatto DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Leeds | Sigma Quatto DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

After posting a comparison of my brand new, funky looking Quattro DP2, and my clunky old boxlike Merrill DP3, I was left speculating on the cause of the issues I’d experienced.

see: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/20/quatto-dp2-merrill-dp3-comparison/

see: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/07/23/sigma-quattro-comparison-part-6b-clocks-greens-detail/

Were the results due to my appalling post-processing skills (as some dared to suggest)? Was it a faulty unit? Was it a fundamental design issue with the sensor? Was it an immature release of SPP? Was it all just a bad, bad, dream?

Unable to sleep (thus ruling out the bad dream theory) I sought the opinion of the foveon gurus. This is Sigma of Japan reply.

“Concerning your inquiry, we consider that the current version of SPP still has room for improvement in terms of processing. In this circumstance, we have not announced this officially yet, but have a plan to release new version of SPP shortly. We expect that with this version and future updates some of the concerns you may have for dp2 Quattro will be cleared”

So SPP is the probable culprit!

Judging by the their interest in the comparison posts, and the speed and openness of their reply, I’ve great faith Sigma will quickly resolve the issues …

… and I really hope they do as in my brief time with the Quattro it showed much promise, and the DP1 & DP3 are still very much on my wish list.

 In the meantime my clunky old Merrill DP3 is not such a  bad camera to fall back on!

🙂

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Sony RX1 & Sigma Merrill DP3 – Merrill Awe

The Quattro v Merrill comparison re-awoke my awe in the detail the Merrill DP3 muster up, so for just for fun I did a comparison between my Sony RX1 and my DP3.

Yes I know these are very different cameras and yes I know I’ve over processed to max detail and yes I know they are not taken in perfect lab conditions but hey, as if you still want to look, remember that the Sigma Merrill DP3 cost me £299 where as the Sony cost a hell of lot more, and for every 1 shot taken with the Merrill I had to take 10 to try and match it with the Sony.

Not that I’ll throw the Sony away, I love it, but bloody hell the Merrill is good! Can the Quattro produce the same?

This has to be my last comparison for a while, it’s time to take some real images.

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Ivy | Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Ivy | Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Ivy | Merrill DP3| www.richardjwalls.com
Ivy | Merrill DP3| http://www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Merrill DP3| www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Merrill DP3| http://www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Merrill DP3| www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Merrill DP3| http://www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Merrill DP3| www.richardjwalls.com
Flowers | Merrill DP3| http://www.richardjwalls.com

Sigma Quattro Comparison – Part 6b – Clocks & Greens Detail

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

After packing the Quattro up and sending it back to Amazon, I woke in a cold sweat, fretting over Part 6 and the difference in IQ between the Merrill and the Quattro when rendering the ivy around the clock.

The difference just couldn’t that big!

So I went back to raw and tried to max the detail in the images, processing first in Sigma Photopro then in Lightroom.

Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

The results may not be to everyone’s taste … art is subjective, with viewer alone making their choice … but the difference is detail is unarguable.

I’ll sleep more soundly tonight!

P.s.

To make the unscientific comparison as open and honest as possible some words on the differences between the shots.

 The Quattro DP2 image was taken at ISO200 @ f10 & 1/80 sec. The Merrill DP3 image was taken at ISO100 @ f6.3 & 1/100 sec. Both hand held. All images (this and other comparison posts) are shot in raw.

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 8 – Conclusion

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

For an updated review please see: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/sigma-quattro-dp2-merrill-revisted

So time to sum up!

This blogs been taken over in the last couple of days with the comparison of the new Sigma Quattro DP2 with my Merrill DP3 (and random assorted cameras).

Sigma Quatto DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quatto DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

It’s not a scientific test by any means, and one aimed at my needs rather than the needs of the great unwashed.

Sigma Quattro DP2| www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2| http://www.richardjwalls.com

Undoubtably the Quattro is the better camera: faster, more dials, better LCD (both quality and feedback), etc. The Merrill is simply poor in these respects.

Sigma Quattro DP2| www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2| http://www.richardjwalls.com

However, when it comes to what counts for me, for this camera, it’s simply about IQ and the Foveon look, and first impressions are that the Quattro’s IQ has been compromised by the new sensor design and that doesn’t work for me.

Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

And then there’s the processing software. It’s just way too slow, unworkably slow in fact, and that’s before it crashes … and I run a Macbook Pro with an i7 processor and 16g of memory so no slouch of a machine.

Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

I’ve been looking forward to the Quattro since it was announced. Watched the web intently; visited the Sigma stand at the Photography Show in Birmingham to get a sighting (no such luck) but did pick up the Merrill DP3 for £299 🙂 ; got my order in early; inspected the sample shots as they arrived on the web. Rushed back from work when the camera arrived …

Sigma Quattro DP2
Sigma Quattro DP2

… only to find that the colour rendition of reds and greens, and the snail pace and constant crashing of Sigma PhotoPro 6 unacceptable.

Sigma Quattro DP2 Background Detail
Sigma Quattro DP2 Background Detail

So I’m afraid the test ended in disappointment, and even a little sadness as I’d genuinely hoped that this version of the sensor would open up the world of Foveon to the masses (or at least widen its appeal a little). Now I worry the Quattro may have it consigned it to history.

Reviewing the photos above none are bad, in fact standing on their own the IQ is pretty good. The problem is that in terms of IQ it seems a step back for the Foveon sensor, not forward, or in other words a dilution!

Let’s hope that it’s not a fundamental problem and that Sigma can drag out some better performance from all the pixels it captures … but for now I’m sticking with the clunky old Merrill!

Time to get back to some real photography!

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 7 – Morgan the Whippet Resolution Test

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

I’ve included this final test for my girlfriend Polly, who insisted I took a pic of her pooch Morgan, and to fair to Polly it’s a good test to see the detail these cameras resolve.

Sigma Quattro DP2| www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2| http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3| www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3| http://www.richardjwalls.com

We spent a good few minutes comparing the two photos to see which was best … and I think the Merrill just shades it, but if you have to look for that long then it’s time to do something more interesting with your life … and other factors beyond IQ come into play.

Just one more post to come!

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 6 – The Clock & Greens

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

Another standard testshot, and a comparison of the Merrill DP1, Merrill DP3 & Quattro DP2, plus for fun the Sony RX1 and Fuji XE2. All taken in different lighting conditions and at different settings. This isn’t a scientific comparison, but then again photography is an art not a science!

Sigma Merrill DP1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sony RX1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

When I first shot the Sony RX1 (~£2,000 at the time) and the Merrill DP1 (<£500 at the time) I was pretty gob smacked by the IQ of the Merrill.

Fuji XE2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Fuji XE2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

The XE2 was pretty good, but didn’t come close to the Merrill.

Sigma Merrill DP3| www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3| http://www.richardjwalls.com

The Merrill DP3 is again a class act.

Sigma Quattro DP2| www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2| http://www.richardjwalls.com

The Quattro DP2 looks sharp on the clock, but look at the green foliage between 1 & 2, then compare to the Merrill DP3. From the previous shots I’d seen that the Quattro had problems with reds, but the difference in quality between the Merrill and Quattro in the greens is unmistakable. The Merrill is far, far superior and not just when you pixel peep. In fact the Quattro is beaten by all the other cameras. 😦

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

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Sigma Quattro Comparison – Part 5 – Red Brick

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

In the first comparison (part 1)  in the test shots of Leeds the Quattro seemed to “smudge” some of the red brick work. But to be fair it was 50mm V 30mm, so with its longer reach the Merrill DP3 was always going to provide more detail than the Quattro DP2.

Today I took a couple of shots of red brick buildings in Ossett, zooming in and out with feet to fill the frame and hopefully provide a more even contest.

Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

To be honest, just looking at the shots, all are pretty decent. But if you want to be critical,  zoom in, especially is seems to me on areas of shadow, and the Merrill simply has more detail where-as the Quattro looks like a water colour.  Zoom back out and the Merrill DP3 starts to look generally sharper.

But hey, both are pretty cool, and as I’ve said, the Quattro is a better all round camera, so you pay your money and make your choice!

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 4 – B&W

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

I originally bought the Sigma Merrill as a potential specialist monochrome camera.

Sigma Merrill DP1 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

The B&W version of Ossett war memorial confirmed the choice, with the foveon sensor giving such rich tone.

Sigma Quattro DP2 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Quattro DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

The Sigma Quattro DP2 shot taken 6 months later looks pretty special too. Again great richness of tone.

Sigma Merrill DP3 | www.richardjwalls.com
Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

But for me the Sigma Merrill DP3 shot – taken together with the Quattro in the same lighting conditions – just shades it. Just a greater range of tones especial in the shadow areas.

But let’s face it, you couldn’t complain about any! The Foveon sensor, both in the old guise and the new, is just pretty special in monochrome mode.

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 3 – Pay & Display

Please read the comparison postscript: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/08/01/sigma-quattro-dp2-comparison-postscript-sigma-reply/

A comparison below of the Merrill DP1, Quattro DP2 and Merrill DP3, in that order. The DP1 shot was taken 6 months ago. The others today.

The DP1 shot (below)  was one that amazed me when I first compared it to the Sony RX1. I’m still in Awe!

Sigma Merrill DP1
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The Sigma Quattro DP2, looks pretty special. If I’d not got used to the quality of the Merrill’s I’d be hugely impressed. Check out the reflection in the window above the car.

Sigma Quattro DP2
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The Sigma Merrill DP3 shot is simply stunning. Check out the detail of the “no parking of HGVs sign”.

Sigma Merrill DP3
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In the short time I’ve used the Quattro it’s definitely a better all round camera than the Merrill’s. Easier to hold; duel dials for speed and aperture, faster in operation  … however I’m sure that there’s many cameras out there that better it at the price point if these are the things that count.

I bought the Quattro for ultimately image quality and the Foveon look. On this basis is it better that the Merrill’s that proceeded it? I’ll let you decide.

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 2 – Image Details

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Further Comparison of the Quattro DP2 and Merrill DP3. Obviously different focal length makes a difference! … But check out the foreground detail snippets. Should there be this much difference?

Photos taken in raw. First two examples are straight out of the box, no processing. All the rest have had some processing in Lightroom, contrast up, highlights down, shadows up and clarity up.

Sigma Quatto DP2 Unprocessed
Sigma Quatto DP2 Unprocessed
Sigma Merrill DP3 Unprocessed
Sigma Merrill DP3 Unprocessed
Sigma Quattro DP2 Processed in Lightroom
Sigma Quattro DP2 Processed in Lightroom
Sigma Merrill DP3 - Processed in Lightroom
Sigma Merrill DP3 – Processed in Lightroom
Sigma Quattro DP2 Foreground Detail
Sigma Quattro DP2 Foreground Detail
Sigma Merrill DP3 Foreground Detail
Sigma Merrill DP3 Foreground Detail
Sigma Quattro DP2 Background Detail
Sigma Quattro DP2 Background Detail
Sigma Merrill DP3 Background Detail
Sigma Merrill DP3 Background Detail

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Sigma Quattro DP2 Comparison – Part 1 – Leeds Panoramas

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For an updated review please see: https://richardjwallsblog.wordpress.com/2014/09/22/sigma-quattro-dp2-merrill-revisted

My Sigma Quattro DP2, on order for a month at least, arrived yesterday.

The shots below provide an unscientific comparison of the Quattro, with a Merrill DP3 and my Sony RX1. I say comparison with, not against, because I love both the Sony and the Merrill.

All shots are stitched and have been post processed in Lightroom.  The Sigma shots were taken on the same day, the Sony some months ago.

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Sigma Quatto DP2 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
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Sigma Merrill DP3 | http://www.richardjwalls.com
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Sony RX1 | http://www.richardjwalls.com

The Sony is thrown in there for fun. It’s a different camera altogether than the Sigma’s with a different look and much more versitility.

Of the Sigma’s I’ve grown to love the slow clunky Merrill. Slow to operate, slow to shoot, slow to post process, but wonderful IQ.

On (very) first impressions the Quattro is a better camera. But Sigma Photo Pro 6 is slower than a snail to process the files. In fact I’d say it’s unworkable.

What about the IQ? First impressions were positive but click on the images and compare the colour rendition of the building just below the middle of the three office blocks on the horizon. This looks unacceptable to me and poor compared to the Merrill (which I picked up for £299). So poor colour rendition and processing software that’s slower than sending off your film in the post! I’ll try again in better conditions but I think it will be back by Amazon before the week ends!

Sorry Sigma.

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